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mobo:  ASRock 970 EXTREME3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard  newegg

support:

   RAM -  DDR3 2100+(OC)/1866*(OC)/1800*(OC)/1600*(OC)/1333/1066/800

   970 Extreme3 (R2) User Manual    970 Extreme3 (R1) User Manual      Asrock website

CPU:

AMD FX-6300

(1) AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6300WMHKBOX - newegg ($120, 12/29/2013)

 

RAM:

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (RL is cheaper than RM & RH)
Cas Latency: 9
Voltage: 1.5V
Multi-channel Kit: Dual Channel Kit
Timing: 9-9-9-24-2N
Model #: F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231277

$44.99 (my 2nd choice; because 1600 CL9 is still better than 1333 CL8 or even 7 and it is $3 cheaper.  HK may be better than RL, don't know!  But X series is newer.)
  H will have best timings like DDR3-1600 CL7, M will have 7 or 8, and L will have 9 or 10. 
  L RAM is still better than standard, it is great for gaming, but extreme overclockers typically prefer H because they need maximum frequency and performance.

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 9-9-9-24
Cas Latency 9
Voltage 1.5V
$44.99 (my 1st choice)
Compatible with Intel LGA1155/LGA1156 and AMD AM3/Llano/AM3+ platforms
Intel XMP support for 1st, 2nd and 3rd Generation Intel Core Processors

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK
Cas Latency: 8
Voltage: 1.5V
Multi-channel Kit: Dual Channel Kit
Timing: 8-8-8-21
Model #: F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK
Item #: N82E16820231180

$47.99

We apologize for the inconvenience. It is strange a module was not working as expected. Send the memory in for RMA exchange and a replacement should work flawlessly. Each kit is pre-matched, tested, and guaranteed from factory, so it is best to return the entire kit so we can send you a new kit back. If down time is of concern, purchase another kit to use then you can return this one for a refund. Once you receive a new kit, enable XMP/DOCP or manually input settings for the RAM, then the system should run at full speed. For any further questions or concerns, please feel free to let us know. 

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

Quality and customer service are our top priorities.

Tech Support Email: ustech@gskillusa.com
RMA Dept Email: rma@gskillusa.com
G.Skill Forum: http://www.gskill.us/forum/

Q:
What is XMP? DOCP? 

A:
XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) by Intel is a preprogrammed profile that you can enable in BIOS to set the correct memory settings in one easy step. XMP is exclusive to Intel platforms only.

DOCP is similar to XMP, but developed for use on AMD platforms.  

Series:
XL / XM / XH = RipjawsX (1. The Z series reviews are lower than the X  so get the X rather than Z.  2. But this says no difference.)
     "as far as the DRAM itself, my 1st pick for the last year+ has been the Tridents (Trident X is the best), followed by the Snipers and then the Ripjaws (either X or Z models)"  src
ZL / ZM / ZH = RipjawsZ   (the RJ Z was originally aimed at the 2011 socket)
RL / RM / RH = Ripjaws            and quality wise:  L (Low) < M (Medium) < H (High)
TX = TridentX   (the best!)
TD = Trident 
NQ / PK / HK = Performance

Cons: Heat sink is too bulky and is in the way of my aftermarket heatsink. 
Response:
The heat spreaders are 38mm tall, so they are taller than standard, but they will fit most aftermarket CPU coolers. Double check that your system can fit this RAM, or you can always purchase a standard size module or the G.Skill Ares series to avoid any possible clearance issues.


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4/2007 old PC's RAM: 
- Dual Channel DDRII Memory Technology
- 4 x DDRII DIMM slots
- Support DDRII800/667/533                          So probably not compatible with 970 Extreme3 R2.0 mobo.

SATA DVD burner - $20 minus promotion code + Free shipping

Win 7 64bit

Optional:

CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

AMD FX - 6300, CPU Cooler Needed? Yes if:

1.) While the stock cooler is sufficient, it will only work marginally well, a $25-30 cooling setup will be much better at keeping temps down.

2.) The biggest nitpick most people have with the stock cooler is the fact that it sounds like a turbo prop airplane taking off inside your case. It's not just noisy, it is flat out LOUD. 

3.) Later on, if you want to overclock later to boost your performance, then you should be fine for a moderate/low overclock with a $25-30 cooling setup like the Xigmatek Loki or Gaia, or the Cooler Master 212 EVO.

Reuse old stuff:

(1) Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 ($39.99) (2/2013)

(2) video card : Radeon HD 5450

      AMD Catalyst™ Display Driver : http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx#1

(3) USB + 1394 bracket: possible?

(4) WiFi adapter - Edimax EW-7811Un 150 Mbps Wireless 11n Nano Size USB Adapter with EZmax Setup Wizard (need a mini CD disc to install)

(5) PCI to IDE card

(6) networking card


6/20/2014:

ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157394

$79.99  -  $64.99 after $15.00 rebate

 

CPU:

AMD FX-4300 Vishera Quad-Core 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD4300WMHKBOX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287

$109.99  

 

AMD FX-6300 Vishera 6-Core 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD6300WMHKBOX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

$119.99

 

More:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%2050001028%20600005863%20600213781&IsNodeId=1&name=Socket%20AM3%2b&Order=PRICE

 


8/10/2014:

ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262

$89.49

Note: Many bad reviews.  So stick with ASRock 970 EXTREME3.
Technical review - ocinside.de


CPU:
FX-6300

don't buy this to run an 8 core FX CPU !!! 

 


9/20/2014 bought:

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 
$19.99
ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard 
$59.99 after $20.00 rebate
AMD FX-6300 Vishera 6-Core 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD6300WMHKBOX 
$109.99
9/21/2014 bought: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL
 



What does better CAS Latency actually give you?

It makes a tiny difference. 

I don't have the link handy, but there's a comparative benchmark on another site showing the differences between RAM at different speeds (1333 v 1600 v 1866, at least) and different latencies (9 v 8 v 7). The conclusion was the 1333 -> 1600 was a worthwhile change, but faster than 1600 made little difference, and that latencies made even less difference.

So yes, 1600 CL 9 is good enough for most of us. If you are utterly obsessive, and you've already squeezed the last little bit out of the rest of your system (huge heatsink, massive overclock, etc) then maybe you could squeeze a tiny bit more out of your RAM. Probably get more out of clocking the RAM faster than by changing latency, though. In fact, you might have to relax the latency to get a higher clock.

To be honest, I bought CL 8 over CL 9 partly because I expected it to be higher-tested RAM, and partly because the colour of the heatsinks on the RAM matched the heatsinks on the motherboard  The difference in price was less than 10% (less than 1% of the system price) - otherwise I'd have taken the sensible choice and gone with the CL 9.